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i think you heard john boehner say that already. we've had votes in the senate where we've actually gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. and i think the vast majority of americans agree with that. the question is how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise at the same time you fix the real problem? and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration, under republican administration. >> let me turn to senator schumer on this point. >> so you have to approach both sides of it. >> let me turn to senator schumer. i'm going to ask you the same question. if the mandate is compromised, what do democrats have to be prepared to accept as a painful outcome in order to achieve compromise? >> well, i agree with you, the mandate is compromise. that's why we have a divided house and senate. and i think if the house stands for anything it's cut government spending, as tom coburn said, and i think we're going to have to do more of it. we hear
i think you heard john boehner say that already. we've had votes in the senate where we've actually gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. and i think the vast majority of americans agree with that. the question is how do you do that and how do you allow taxes to rise at the same time you fix the real problem? and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration, under republican administration....
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look at speaker boehner, he's showing that we need to show leadership. we have to work with the president. they have the message and they'll respond appropriately and you'll see. >> that's very optimistic. i think, i degree with armstrong, the next few weeks whether they got the message or not. we have this big issue coming up with all of these fiscal issues and boehner a year and a half ago, when this came up the last time, he was basically whipped by the tea party wing of his party. so, the real question is, whether he's able to go back to that tea party link and say what armstrong just said, work with the president, some degree on compromise on taxes and raising revenues. i think it's an open question whether he can do that and whether he can succeed in doing that. >> gentlemen, thanks so much. i appreciate your time today. >>> stick around. up next, i got actor and activist ally sheedy waiting in the wings. she'll be with me in a second. >>> welcome back. tens of thousands are still in the dark after hurricane sandy. power crews in new york and new j
look at speaker boehner, he's showing that we need to show leadership. we have to work with the president. they have the message and they'll respond appropriately and you'll see. >> that's very optimistic. i think, i degree with armstrong, the next few weeks whether they got the message or not. we have this big issue coming up with all of these fiscal issues and boehner a year and a half ago, when this came up the last time, he was basically whipped by the tea party wing of his party. so,...
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how much does boehner speak for his conference, by the way? how much leeway does he have to cut a deal that might anger some conservatives? this weekend there were signs of softening among conservatives on the issue of taxes. here is "the weekly standard questions bill kristol sunday. >> it won't kill the country if we raise tax as little bit on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000, make it a million. the republican party is going to defend a bunch of millionaires, half who voted democratic and hatch live in hollywood. >> although tom price who is running to lead the house republican conference said sunday he is open to closing some tax loopholes, he did buck boehner on the issue of health care. >> question, do most house republicans, do you agree with speaker boehner that repeal of obama care with this election, with his re-election, is debt? >> we're not opposed to the president's health care law because of the election. we're opposed because it's bad policy and
how much does boehner speak for his conference, by the way? how much leeway does he have to cut a deal that might anger some conservatives? this weekend there were signs of softening among conservatives on the issue of taxes. here is "the weekly standard questions bill kristol sunday. >> it won't kill the country if we raise tax as little bit on millionaires. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000, make it a million....
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boehner and the president were close to a deal last year. the so-called grand bargain, 4 trillion in debt reduction. many think that blueprint still works. >> and the real problem is, uncriminaled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration. >> reporter: experts warn of serious damage to the economy, if the standoff drags on. >> three or four weeks from now, they're making no progress at all, you're going to see the anxiety and the nervousness growing in the markets and the corporate board rooms. >>> two weeks after the destruction from hurricane sandy, victims are still trying to put their lives back together. more than 100,000 homes and businesses in new york and new jersey are without electricity, as they struggle to rebuild. a 77-year-old man has died of injuries from a fall, as sandy hit new york, bringing the city's death toll to 43. >>> homeland security janet napolitano met with disaster victims in new york. >>> and now, for a look at the national weather, we turn to bill karins
boehner and the president were close to a deal last year. the so-called grand bargain, 4 trillion in debt reduction. many think that blueprint still works. >> and the real problem is, uncriminaled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively. not just under this administration. >> reporter: experts warn of serious damage to the economy, if the standoff drags on. >> three or four weeks from now, they're making no progress at all, you're going to see the...
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that's the president, and that's speaker boehner. and what i think is best for all of us to do is to talk about those areas of commonality, to tremendously support these negotiations, because when you look at the time frame, alex, the only way we're going to get to a solution by year end is if the president and speaker boehner come to an agreement, because i believe anything they agree to is something that will pass the senate. so it's really the house, and the president. and it's time for both of them to step up and show the kind of leadership this nation needs to solve that problem. >> how about this? first of all, do you believe we will come to a resolution by the end of this year? and as you know, speaker boehner supports a stopgap measure that would at least buy time until january when the new congress could take up these bigger ticket items? >> yeah. >> i know that their suggestion is kicking the can down the road. but do you support a two-step process? >> i don't. look, alex. we all know what the issues are. we've had two dry
that's the president, and that's speaker boehner. and what i think is best for all of us to do is to talk about those areas of commonality, to tremendously support these negotiations, because when you look at the time frame, alex, the only way we're going to get to a solution by year end is if the president and speaker boehner come to an agreement, because i believe anything they agree to is something that will pass the senate. so it's really the house, and the president. and it's time for both...
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surer is right, john boehner would have cut a deal. but he couldn't, because at the end of the day, had he done so, his own house republicans would have risen up in mutiny. and he would have lost the speakership. whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i think one of the interesting things that boehner said, is this your moment now, mr. president, now leave. that's both the reality and a little bit of trying to pass the buck. but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into the negotiations and to lead, and continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. it is on his shoulders. >> he has to lead publicly as well. >> yes. >> to sell it? >> he has to sell it. you know, there are a couple -- there aren't a lot of republicans i think that play in regards to public pres
surer is right, john boehner would have cut a deal. but he couldn't, because at the end of the day, had he done so, his own house republicans would have risen up in mutiny. and he would have lost the speakership. whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i...
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you have john boehner suggest that maybe he's going to be the leader. you can already see them sharpening their knives for him. it seems to me and then he'll be replaced by somebody else who will be in the same position, it just seems that anybody who will try to get into some position of being rational and talking straight is going to be undermined by his own party. >> victoria, you do have some moderate republicans increasingly calling out the conservative meet i can't establishment. listen to this for example. >> the conservative followship has been pleased, exploited and lied to. >> we have the media elite in a sense on the right, they're making millions of dollars talking about all the incendiary aspects where we need solutions. >> if i were a donor, my biggest problem would be that i was laid to. the conservative media establishment, they lied to the donors. they lied to the base. they lied to everybody about how romney was ahead. >> now, victoria, can these more moderate voices at least moderate compared to the tea party, can they gain traction a
you have john boehner suggest that maybe he's going to be the leader. you can already see them sharpening their knives for him. it seems to me and then he'll be replaced by somebody else who will be in the same position, it just seems that anybody who will try to get into some position of being rational and talking straight is going to be undermined by his own party. >> victoria, you do have some moderate republicans increasingly calling out the conservative meet i can't establishment....
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you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be a tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going, wait a minute, i got two big risks. one, i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i tried so hard to get my way that we screwed it up with the republicans like we did last august and nothing gets done and the economy tanks again for a second recession, and i'm going down in history as a double failure. >> he can't let that happen. >> at some point he has to pull back from the paul krugmans of the world and the people on the far left, not far left but left, and say i'm president, you're a columnist. >> right. he has -- he's going to get a lot of flack from both his own left flank and the right. he has to accept t
you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be a tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going, wait a minute, i got two big risks. one, i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff,...
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i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday expires. and $984 billion in cuts will be triggered. joining me now, andy sullivan and sher a tupletts. what do you expect to come out of the meeting friday and will any real progress made? >> oh, no, but i think the optics will be important. there will beside by side getting their picture taken and i think this will reassure voters and most importantly investors that they are serious about the problem and they want t to get something done before the end of the year. they've pretty much gotten a free ride from the markets. everybody knew this was co
i think you heard john boehner say that. we've had votes in the senate where we've gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate continue to cut spending, but they have to hear the than date real revenues not like dynamic scoring. >> and here's what happens if no agreement is reached before january 1st.bush tax rates expire. emergency unemployment benefits will end. the 2011 payroll tax holiday...
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boehner still doesn't control his caucus. we don't have to ask what the american people wanted. president obama ran on an explicit program of raising taxes on top earners. and boehner is still talking about the romney plan, mess around with loopholes and take away loopholes from top earners. that was romney's plan and romney lost. the president holds the cards here. the world won't come to an end on january 1st if all the rates expire. it's more of a curve. i think we can afford to go off it. >> we'll see. as we quickly approach it. my thanks to the power panel today. i really appreciate your time today. >>> coming up next, a bipartisan plan to fix the nation's debt. the co-chairs are going to join me, ed rendell and former new hampshire senator judd gregg will join me to talk about this. we want to know what you think. should general petraeus have resigned? tweet me your thoughts about this or find me on facebook. oun] today, jason is here to volunteer to help those in need. when a twinge of back pain surprises him. morning starts in high spirits, but there's a growing pain in
boehner still doesn't control his caucus. we don't have to ask what the american people wanted. president obama ran on an explicit program of raising taxes on top earners. and boehner is still talking about the romney plan, mess around with loopholes and take away loopholes from top earners. that was romney's plan and romney lost. the president holds the cards here. the world won't come to an end on january 1st if all the rates expire. it's more of a curve. i think we can afford to go off it....
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but expect it will be john boehner working along with the president. i'm sure mitch mcconnell will be very closely involved in the discussions with leader boehner. >> you don't believe a deal should come out of the senate and then be introduced in the house? >> well, i think the elections are over. we need to find solutions to help our country move forward in a positive direction and as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staffs says the biggest threat to our national security is actually our debt. we need to get this spending under control and get people back to work. >> i want to talk about this issue of taxes and tax rates and get you to respond to something from not exactly someone who is known as a liberal thinker here. take a listen. >> it won't kill the country if we raise tax as little bit on millionaires. it really won't, i don't think. i don't know why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000. make it $500,000, make it a million. the republican party is going to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of w
but expect it will be john boehner working along with the president. i'm sure mitch mcconnell will be very closely involved in the discussions with leader boehner. >> you don't believe a deal should come out of the senate and then be introduced in the house? >> well, i think the elections are over. we need to find solutions to help our country move forward in a positive direction and as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staffs says the biggest threat to our national security is...
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there's the faction that would be amenable to the deal and somebody like john boehner is going to be working toward a deal. and then there's the other side, the more tea party republicans who aren't going to want to accept this, who aren't going to be okay with raising taxes on anyone. and so i think we are going to see a little bit of a fight here. that said, they don't want to be the ones that cause the country to go over the cliff. it's going to be an interesting couple of weeks. >> i think fewer people are more representative of the other side. does grover norquist have any clout? >> he has some. can he stop a short-term deal from being done? it's the desire to never cut a dime from the defense or the military budget. i think the question will be -- we will see a deal, will it be another short-term deal that kind of exchanges the stopping of the sequestration cuts of the military spending increases in favor of something like lifting the cap off social security taxes or adding some taxes to the wealthiest families in addition to the ones that are already going to take effect janua
there's the faction that would be amenable to the deal and somebody like john boehner is going to be working toward a deal. and then there's the other side, the more tea party republicans who aren't going to want to accept this, who aren't going to be okay with raising taxes on anyone. and so i think we are going to see a little bit of a fight here. that said, they don't want to be the ones that cause the country to go over the cliff. it's going to be an interesting couple of weeks. >> i...
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when you see boehner calling the caucus and say, hey, let's aavoid the nasty showdowns. that's saying let's not be hostage takers. you see obama learning how to deal with the caucus. let's extend the middle class tax cuts, right now, let's do it. he puts them in a bad position and making it look like, look, middle class, they are not giving you what you need. so learning how to work with them, learning that we have to have some compromise, i see some tea leaves that we may have a better next couple of years. we'll see. >> it will be interesting, if a deal is struck. i don't think it will nearly as good as for republicans as the deal that the president offered them. the grand deal that had been offered before. you know, in some ways i actually think the problem for republicans and for conservatives is that a lot of their ideas and principles have actually won. you know, since ronald reagan we no longer have 70% tax rates on the highest income earners. nobody is arguing for that. we're arguing to go back to 39.6%. on health care reform, the president's health care reform w
when you see boehner calling the caucus and say, hey, let's aavoid the nasty showdowns. that's saying let's not be hostage takers. you see obama learning how to deal with the caucus. let's extend the middle class tax cuts, right now, let's do it. he puts them in a bad position and making it look like, look, middle class, they are not giving you what you need. so learning how to work with them, learning that we have to have some compromise, i see some tea leaves that we may have a better next...
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>> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said in the past, that higher rates will kill the economy. there is bill kristol pointing out how we've done perfectly fine under higher rates in the past. >> what he's trying to get through to republicans, particularly the new class that came in in 2010, okay, you campaigned on all of these promises, but now it's time to govern and things have come to a standstill in washington over the last two years, and now with the fiscal cliff or fiscal curve coming, and the president being re-elected with more than 50% of the vote, it's time to make a deal. and everyone knows that in order -- that the real deal th
>> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said...
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we'll find out. >> rita, you had a one on one with john boehner. we'll be seeing him again on monday. it sounds at least like his tone is definitely changed. take a listen. >> i remain optimistic that we'll be able to find common ground. i'm the most reasonable and responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. >> did you know that john boehner was the most reasonable person in washington? did you know that? >> no. you said that to me last week. he is sort of the adult in the room in a lot of cases. consider the fact that the members of congress who are freshman and sophomores in their first two terms, the highest number since world war ii, we've got all of these new people coming to washington who don't know how the town works, how the legislating process works and everybody sort of wants to fix everything right away and they wanted to fix it on their own terms. john boehner has been around for a long time and sort of knows how these deals work, how to stitch togethe
we'll find out. >> rita, you had a one on one with john boehner. we'll be seeing him again on monday. it sounds at least like his tone is definitely changed. take a listen. >> i remain optimistic that we'll be able to find common ground. i'm the most reasonable and responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. the election is over. >> did you know that john boehner was the most reasonable person in washington? did...
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boehner and his supposed mandate right now? >> well, i think that he said that the election would be a mandate, it was, and he lost. and i think that the important point about the crystal comment is that there's now a wedge in the republican party that the president needs to exploit. there's a wedge between the realist wing and the kind of fa fantasy, childish wing. the realist wing understands the president has a mandate. democrats won the presidency and the senate. we won a majority -- we won the popular vote if you add up the house races as well. look, i think it's in both parties' interest to avoid the fiscal cliff. neither of them want it for a whole host of reasons, including it will be damaging to the economy. we learned recently that president obama in august of 2011 was kind of ready to do a nixon goes to china moment on entitlements and i think that's still on the table. have real entitlement reform. on taxes it's as bill clinton said. it's simple math. spending is at 24% of gdp. taxes are at about 15% of gdp right no
boehner and his supposed mandate right now? >> well, i think that he said that the election would be a mandate, it was, and he lost. and i think that the important point about the crystal comment is that there's now a wedge in the republican party that the president needs to exploit. there's a wedge between the realist wing and the kind of fa fantasy, childish wing. the realist wing understands the president has a mandate. democrats won the presidency and the senate. we won a majority --...
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the president's chief negotiating adversary right now, speaker john boehner who was re-elected by house republicans yesterday said they're not ready to accept the president's proposal because it would, quote, hurt our economy and make jobs more difficult. but he also sounded the kumbaya theme. >> now, i do think that the spirit of cooperation that you've seen over the last week, from myself and my team. from democrats across the aisle. from the president. have created an atmosphere where i think that, i remain optimistic. >> folks, there are a lot closer than sometime the bravadoish headlines seem to make clear. this is really about what can boehner take to 50 to 100 house republicans who are willing to temporarily potentially raise some tax rates on some group of wealthier americans? >>> by the way, after $6 billion spent on house senate and presidential campaign, not only did party control not change for the house, senate and white house. but the individual leaders who will begin the negotiations tomorrow, it's the exact group of people. there are some personnel changes but not on tha
the president's chief negotiating adversary right now, speaker john boehner who was re-elected by house republicans yesterday said they're not ready to accept the president's proposal because it would, quote, hurt our economy and make jobs more difficult. but he also sounded the kumbaya theme. >> now, i do think that the spirit of cooperation that you've seen over the last week, from myself and my team. from democrats across the aisle. from the president. have created an atmosphere where...
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as for speaker boehner i know they would personally like to make this time of deal. assuming the grand bargain happens, you can't get it done in a lame duck session, at least you move forward there, grand bargain, is this something that safbs the u.s. from this debt we've inflicted on ourselves for so long, where people stand up and notice it or would there still be the naysayers out there that say it still is not enough. what do you think? >> i think a true grand bargain would be a really great confidence signal to markets. now i don't think it's the solution for our short term growth problems because right now borrowing is cheap and we don't have a debt problem dragging on our economy right now but if we're looking at freeing up investment, freeing up hiring over the medium and long terms, absolutely the markets would love that. >> i think, also, the biggest negative domestically generated is the perpetual fights of brinksmanship, government shutdown, debt ceiling. a grand bargain that if it did nothing else put off those types of fights for the foreseeable future
as for speaker boehner i know they would personally like to make this time of deal. assuming the grand bargain happens, you can't get it done in a lame duck session, at least you move forward there, grand bargain, is this something that safbs the u.s. from this debt we've inflicted on ourselves for so long, where people stand up and notice it or would there still be the naysayers out there that say it still is not enough. what do you think? >> i think a true grand bargain would be a...
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and speaker john boehner's getting in on the love. >> 2013 should be the year to begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. this framework can lead to common ground. because if there was a mandate in this election, it was a mandate to work together to do what's in the best interest of our country. >> but any fundamental reform is going to require republicans to break their signed pledge against raising taxes. we'll discuss that next on "now." hungry for the best? it's eb. want to give your family the very best in taste, freshness, and nutrition? it's eb. want to give them more vitamins, omega 3s, and less saturated fat? it's eb. eggland's best eggs. eb's. the only eggs that make better taste and better nutrition... easy. eggland's best eggs. better taste. better nutrition. better eggs. it's eb. >>> let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell. you know what, it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't, i don't think. i don't see why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000,
and speaker john boehner's getting in on the love. >> 2013 should be the year to begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. this framework can lead to common ground. because if there was a mandate in this election, it was a mandate to work together to do what's in the best interest of our country. >> but any fundamental reform is going to require republicans to break their signed pledge against raising taxes. we'll discuss that next on "now." hungry...
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only 19% trust john boehner. and in the wake of tonight's developments i would imagine those numbers would get a little worse for the speaker of the house. joining me tonight, former governor howard dean of vermont and cnbc political analyst. mr. dean, good to have you with us, governor. >> thanks, ed. >> give us in short order your commentary without question, what do you think has happened here this evening? >> well, the inside baseball of this is really a problem for the speaker. you can't -- this is something you can't do. you can't have your budget overridden, as governors know, and you can't have a major initiative like this go down when you think you have the votes and you don't. it would not entirely surprise me to see eric cantor or kevin mccarthy, who've been waiting in the wings, kind of gently stack the speaker in the back for a couple years, to make their move after the new session starts. the fiscal cliff, as you know, i believe the country would be better off if we went over the fiscal cliff. we wo
only 19% trust john boehner. and in the wake of tonight's developments i would imagine those numbers would get a little worse for the speaker of the house. joining me tonight, former governor howard dean of vermont and cnbc political analyst. mr. dean, good to have you with us, governor. >> thanks, ed. >> give us in short order your commentary without question, what do you think has happened here this evening? >> well, the inside baseball of this is really a problem for the...
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that's why speaker boehner made that statement. i think that the president is going to be able to peal off a number of republicans to try to create a package that will avert the fiscal package. >> how much of a leadership task is this going to be for him or fall squarely on the president? >> it takes three parties to make a law, house, senate, and white house. it could be plus republicans in the senate who are much more open to compromise than in the house. john boehner has the majority but it can't be a majority to make anything happen. >> how different is it than a few years ago? >> it has a few less tea party members and some of the vocal ones but the point is, he needs to be able to -- what kind of speaker would he look like if all he did was produce 40 republicans to make the majority on to a democratic bill? and that doesn't make him look like a leader if it's the democrats that peal off some of his peal in terms of a deal. >> bill, if you're a betting man and how would you bet that this thing plays out. >> the fiscal cliff,
that's why speaker boehner made that statement. i think that the president is going to be able to peal off a number of republicans to try to create a package that will avert the fiscal package. >> how much of a leadership task is this going to be for him or fall squarely on the president? >> it takes three parties to make a law, house, senate, and white house. it could be plus republicans in the senate who are much more open to compromise than in the house. john boehner has the...
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it's bajohn boehner. he needs to decide if he takes this country over the fiscal cliff by refusing to bend on tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. as of now, he still says that tax cuts are off the table. >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about it? >> i made clear yesterday that raising tax rates is unacceptable. and frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. >> boehner is boxing himself in by taking all tax increases off the table. e today the president repeated his intention to pass a bill keeping the tax cuts on anyone with income under $250,000. >> the senate has already passed a bill doing exactly this. so all we need is action from the house. i've got the pen. ready to sign the bill right away. i'm ready to do it. >> house republicans are going to have a lot of explaining to do if they don't pass tax cut extensions on the american people who need it the most. americans labor coalition made it clear it will s
it's bajohn boehner. he needs to decide if he takes this country over the fiscal cliff by refusing to bend on tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. as of now, he still says that tax cuts are off the table. >> raising taxes on small business people is the wrong prescription given where our economy is. >> is it on the table to talk about it? >> i made clear yesterday that raising tax rates is unacceptable. and frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. >> boehner is boxing...
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and jay carney said, oh, no, no, no, we agree with john boehner. we know when you have a deal, it's a deal for all of it. we just think that we all agree we're pretty close on the number, we're just working out the details. the white house doesn't want to throw john boehner under the bus publicly, do they? >> he's their negotiating partner. boehner has been in private in these talks from all reports pretty reasonable. he recognizes that he has a balancing act to do. he must get support from some republicans, but in the end, this deal is likely to be like the tax deal they passed during the lame duck session and like the last cr was. this is likely to be a deal that gets passed only because it gets sufficient votes from both republicans and democrats, the kind of bipartisan compromise that the president said he would put through on a range of issues as president. this is a challenge for john boehner more than anyone else, but it's clear he knows from the comments he made today, he can't deliver what the tea party wants, even if he was willing to tak
and jay carney said, oh, no, no, no, we agree with john boehner. we know when you have a deal, it's a deal for all of it. we just think that we all agree we're pretty close on the number, we're just working out the details. the white house doesn't want to throw john boehner under the bus publicly, do they? >> he's their negotiating partner. boehner has been in private in these talks from all reports pretty reasonable. he recognizes that he has a balancing act to do. he must get support...
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listen to boehner talking. as long as he's talking about not raising tax rates, we're on a path to a deal. if he starts talking about not raising taxes, maybe we're off the track. >> all right. we'll look for keywords. thank you very much. i know we'll talk with you probably every day including the 11th hour when this is finally done. >> happy to do it. >> on lessons learned from last week's election, our first read team asks, is the independent vote overrated? what do you think? they noted that romney won the independent vote 50/45. joining me now is mark murray. you and your team don't just point to mitt romney losing. others have lost banking on the independent voter. >> when we look at a poll or exit poll, are you winning independent voters? that's seen as winning the middle of the electorate, the people who decide a presidential contest. as you alluded to, in two of the last three presidential elections, the candidate who ended up winning the independent vote ended up losing the presidential contest. john
listen to boehner talking. as long as he's talking about not raising tax rates, we're on a path to a deal. if he starts talking about not raising taxes, maybe we're off the track. >> all right. we'll look for keywords. thank you very much. i know we'll talk with you probably every day including the 11th hour when this is finally done. >> happy to do it. >> on lessons learned from last week's election, our first read team asks, is the independent vote overrated? what do you...
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boehner and mcconnell still in charge. although they did better and you could argue there's no reason. are you surprised there's not a push to change leaders inside your party even if it's just the face of the party a little bit? >> it's difficult. within the house there is -- i think there will be a battle for the conference chair. >> but it's a -- >> i'm surprised, yeah, but at the same time, we need strong leadership and a strong speaker and i think boehner can do a good job -- >> looks like he's going to get more political leeway. he doesn't have eric cantor. it seems like there's for trust between the two but, jackie, if the american people had known they not only were re-electing status quo but the same people are in the room that gave us the gridlock, i wonder how that ballot would have turned out. >> i wonder if he said it's going to be the same people in the room, and, you know, a lot of this is going to be theater. we were talking about that for the first couple of days, hopefully not weeks but there will be a lo
boehner and mcconnell still in charge. although they did better and you could argue there's no reason. are you surprised there's not a push to change leaders inside your party even if it's just the face of the party a little bit? >> it's difficult. within the house there is -- i think there will be a battle for the conference chair. >> but it's a -- >> i'm surprised, yeah, but at the same time, we need strong leadership and a strong speaker and i think boehner can do a good...
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speaker boehner tried to offer signals about a compromise. president obamsays compromise is not a dirty word. press secretary jay carney said right after that though the president would veto any legislation from congress that maintains the bush tax cut for the upper income earners. they put a line in the sand right there. a lot of democrats say you just won an election. play hardball and face them down. i think we're going to be in store for another long christmas season here. >> do you think that's where the president is going to get push back from the democrats in the senate? are they going to insist on raising taxes for the rich? >> i think you're definitely going to have more progressive members of the senate, elizabeth warren come into the senate now. of course that's not until next year. but the composition of the senate is changing. you also have a lot of moderate members of the senate that are up in red states in 2014 watching them. mary landry in louisiana, mary cahey. if they did that level should be $500,000, a little higher than w
speaker boehner tried to offer signals about a compromise. president obamsays compromise is not a dirty word. press secretary jay carney said right after that though the president would veto any legislation from congress that maintains the bush tax cut for the upper income earners. they put a line in the sand right there. a lot of democrats say you just won an election. play hardball and face them down. i think we're going to be in store for another long christmas season here. >> do you...
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that's the problem boehner had. if boehner had 35 safe republicans, safe from a primary challenge, safe from somebody from the right on taxes, i think this deal would have happened even a lot sooner. they might have gone ahead and passed parts of -- most of that bill that came through the senate. >> they have to schedule -- the thing about leadership is they have to schedule a bill. that's the tricky part. let's take a look at this. a very interesting moment in the press conference today, extremely interesting when president obama was asked about comments from his former opponent, john mccain, who made some nasty comments about susan rice, the united states ambassador to the u.n. and she may well be the head of the state department soon. here's the president responding in a very personal way. i thought this was really a moment here. >> let me say specifically about susan rice. she has done exemlary work. she has represented the united states and united nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and great.
that's the problem boehner had. if boehner had 35 safe republicans, safe from a primary challenge, safe from somebody from the right on taxes, i think this deal would have happened even a lot sooner. they might have gone ahead and passed parts of -- most of that bill that came through the senate. >> they have to schedule -- the thing about leadership is they have to schedule a bill. that's the tricky part. let's take a look at this. a very interesting moment in the press conference today,...
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. >> during that meeting the president sat between house speaker john boehner and senate majority leader harry reid calling for cooperation and compromise. >> we've got to make sure that taxes don't go up on middle-class families, that our economy remains strong, that we're creating jobs, and that's an agenda that democrats and republicans and independents, people all across the country, share. so, our challenge is to make sure that, you know, we are able to cooperate together, work together. >> joining me now for more, congressional reporter for "the washington post" ed o'keefe and national journal correspondent nancy cook. good morning both of you. last time we saw those three together, sort of a kumbayah moment when you have reid and boehner and mcconnell together. did you get a sense, ed, putting revenue on the table meant republicans were open to tax hikes for those makes $250,000 or more? >> no, they're not. they still say they don't want to see that increase. by talking about revenues the idea is you close loopholes, find a way to perhaps limit deductions and create revenue that w
. >> during that meeting the president sat between house speaker john boehner and senate majority leader harry reid calling for cooperation and compromise. >> we've got to make sure that taxes don't go up on middle-class families, that our economy remains strong, that we're creating jobs, and that's an agenda that democrats and republicans and independents, people all across the country, share. so, our challenge is to make sure that, you know, we are able to cooperate together, work...
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same folks on the debt ceiling crisis, the president, john boehner. john boehner this week revealing to a lot of folks that he is the most reasonable man in washington, d.c. what do you think? how do you think this thing plays out? >> i've actually long thought that boehner is very reasonable, and if given the opportunity wants to come to the table and resolve the issue. and now the election does give him the opportunity. it gives him something when he goes to his caucus saying listen, you are absolutely right, and you have your chance to speak. but you're not going to drive the party's identity. you're not going to drive the message. and i as the leader of the party in the house now can be able to go to the white house and make a deal. there is going to be a deal struck. you're absolutely right. and this will be a story for a while. then they come together and get it out of here. we'll start talking about something else because we as republicans need to talk about something else. the fiscal cliff is not making the republicans any more popular. and ri
same folks on the debt ceiling crisis, the president, john boehner. john boehner this week revealing to a lot of folks that he is the most reasonable man in washington, d.c. what do you think? how do you think this thing plays out? >> i've actually long thought that boehner is very reasonable, and if given the opportunity wants to come to the table and resolve the issue. and now the election does give him the opportunity. it gives him something when he goes to his caucus saying listen,...
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not all of them like boehner's trying to do now. at least half of them and you make up the difference with democrats. republican senators are no more interested in this house bill than democratic senators are. senator mccain going into this lunch with i'm told they were having spa getty repeated his assertion with the idea that we're going to do a balanced budget amendment to cap federal spending as 18% of the economy as bizarro. everyone on the senate side is expecting this to move into the middle. >> lori montgomery it's been an italian themed menu this week on capitol hill. pizza last night, spa getty for lunch. all good thins. maybe the only good thing out of the hill. >>> and this week nbc's brian williams takes us behind the scenes with unprecedented action to all the players in the debt showdown. as president obama said today he wants a compromise. what does majority leader reid really think about mitch mcconnell? >> how do you get along with mitch mcconnell? >> mitch and i are friends. we talk every day. i consider him a fin
not all of them like boehner's trying to do now. at least half of them and you make up the difference with democrats. republican senators are no more interested in this house bill than democratic senators are. senator mccain going into this lunch with i'm told they were having spa getty repeated his assertion with the idea that we're going to do a balanced budget amendment to cap federal spending as 18% of the economy as bizarro. everyone on the senate side is expecting this to move into the...
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could speaker boehner be afraid he actually has the votes to end it? it's monday october 7th and this is "now." >>> the country is now seven days into a government shutdown but house speaker john boehner is still refusing to allow a vote on any bill that would reopen the government's doors without delaying, defunding or dismantling in some fashion the nation's health care law. speaking to george stephanopoulos, boehner had this to say. >> there are not the votes in the house to pass a clean cr. the american people expect in washington when we have a crisis like this that the leaders will sit down and have a conversation. i told my members the other day, there may be a back room somewhere, but there's nobody in it. >> a back room with nobody in it or a back room with the majority of the house of representatives in it. according to nbc's own count, there are currently as many as 22 republicans who would support a clean bill of funding along with 200 democrats in support of the measure speaker boehner would have just enough votes to reopen the u.s. govern
could speaker boehner be afraid he actually has the votes to end it? it's monday october 7th and this is "now." >>> the country is now seven days into a government shutdown but house speaker john boehner is still refusing to allow a vote on any bill that would reopen the government's doors without delaying, defunding or dismantling in some fashion the nation's health care law. speaking to george stephanopoulos, boehner had this to say. >> there are not the votes in the...
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by the way, boehner's word to gohmert after the vote, "louie, i love you too." >>> finally this one. after the election we heard certain ceos were threatening to fire employees if president obama won the election. some are going through with it. robert murray, ceo of the coal company that ordered employees to attend a rally with mitt romney, laid off 156 employees the day after the election. nice guy. john schneider, ceo of papa john's pizza chain, says he will be cutting employee hours to avoid costs associated with obama care. finally, john metz, ceo of several denny's franchises, says he will add a 5% surcharge to customers' bills to offset the cost of obama care. you don't want to pay extra, he suggests you simply tip the server less to offset the cost. what a sweetheart. >>> up next, new information on the affair that brought down cia director david petraeus. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. now back to "hardball." >>> back to "hardball." we now know the identity of that fbi agent, that tampa socialite jill kelley reached out to after receiving suspicious e-ma
by the way, boehner's word to gohmert after the vote, "louie, i love you too." >>> finally this one. after the election we heard certain ceos were threatening to fire employees if president obama won the election. some are going through with it. robert murray, ceo of the coal company that ordered employees to attend a rally with mitt romney, laid off 156 employees the day after the election. nice guy. john schneider, ceo of papa john's pizza chain, says he will be cutting...
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is john boehner a huge part of the problem? because boehner is not an analog to tip o'neill as obama is analog to ronald reagan. he's letting this tea party caucus as we've all discussed here really run things. is the weakness of boehner as a speaker a huge part of the problem? >>. >> reporter: well, it's interesting, boehner's strategy has been to let the hot air out. he let's these guys scream and yell and beat their chest and takes them to the brink every single time. at the end of the day he's able to make the concession and say, look, i'm dealing with these folks in the house and they are not going to break on anything. you have to give me something or else we're in real trouble. in 2010 he said i got 90% of what i wanted. this is the leadership strategy and he doesn't care. if someone writes about him being the weakest in history, he laughs and says i'm trying to do the best job i can. i don't see guys, a way forward for boehner on this one without democratic help and the question becomes when is he going to do it? he's r
is john boehner a huge part of the problem? because boehner is not an analog to tip o'neill as obama is analog to ronald reagan. he's letting this tea party caucus as we've all discussed here really run things. is the weakness of boehner as a speaker a huge part of the problem? >>. >> reporter: well, it's interesting, boehner's strategy has been to let the hot air out. he let's these guys scream and yell and beat their chest and takes them to the brink every single time. at the end...
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this a way boehner does not. he is facing a critical challenge from the right and greater general election challenge down the road as he gets through the primary. he is trying to make deals and making a fight against the secretary of state. mcconnell hauled in $2.3 million. in the same time period, 2.throw million. aside from connell being paralyzed, he signals he is ready to deal on the floor earlier this week. >> let me go over the remarks. we had a good day. i had a good day yesterday and another good day today. i think it's safe to say we faced substantial progress and we look forward to making more progress in the near future. >> nothing is done yet, but if the deal gets done, connell is starting on the right, but it's rare. we haven't seen many profiles on capitol hill lately and there is not great leadership going on, but the closest thing that qualifies, he is making a risky move and putting his own career on the line for something that has to get done. shouldn't go unnoticed. the people he loafs, the sen
this a way boehner does not. he is facing a critical challenge from the right and greater general election challenge down the road as he gets through the primary. he is trying to make deals and making a fight against the secretary of state. mcconnell hauled in $2.3 million. in the same time period, 2.throw million. aside from connell being paralyzed, he signals he is ready to deal on the floor earlier this week. >> let me go over the remarks. we had a good day. i had a good day yesterday...
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. >> speaker boehner is speaker in name only. >> president obama knows that. >> john boehner won't let the bill get a yes/no vote. >> these limited options that speaker boehner has the. >> the gop find itself more and more in a bind. >> who is leading whom here? >> the happiest i have seen members. >> completely diddly unaware. >> we are starting to win. >> tell that to john boehner. >> has no strategy. >> republican position hardening. >> it's clear the shutdown will go on. >> day three. >> no deal to get the government up and running. >> of this government shutdown. >> meanwhile. >> shots fired near the capital. they have confirmed shots were fired. some offices, are said to be on lockdown. we are told we must stay in our offices under lockdown. pennsylvaniach avenue has been closed down. >> started at the white house. >> this vehicle crashed into a barricade. >> the driver of the car, the woman shot and killed. >> we're told this is over. >> a tense time. >> it is in terms of the danger over. >> i'm alex wagner in for lawrence o'donnell. terror in the midst of the shutdown. this aft
. >> speaker boehner is speaker in name only. >> president obama knows that. >> john boehner won't let the bill get a yes/no vote. >> these limited options that speaker boehner has the. >> the gop find itself more and more in a bind. >> who is leading whom here? >> the happiest i have seen members. >> completely diddly unaware. >> we are starting to win. >> tell that to john boehner. >> has no strategy. >> republican...
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speaker boehner appears to be torn by this. mitch mcconnell, on the other hand, appears to be concerned about winning a primary in kentucky. i can only recall his tactics that tried to mug the president, apparently, will continue. so this is a very interesting question. there are clearly people within the republican party who don't want them to be more flexible, who want to go down in flames. and that's the key issue. there are republicans who will be running for re-election for the senate next time pp, republican members of the house who understand they've got to be more flexible. and it's going to be interesting to watch. i hope they will fine the courage to break with the tea party. to date i'm not encouraged. to date the tea party continues to have that veto. >> now, compare this aftermath of an election with 2010, after the midterm election. what is the difference in terms of the political landscape and leverage of the democratic party? >> well, clearly the democratic message won. let me point out one issue, which i'm very
speaker boehner appears to be torn by this. mitch mcconnell, on the other hand, appears to be concerned about winning a primary in kentucky. i can only recall his tactics that tried to mug the president, apparently, will continue. so this is a very interesting question. there are clearly people within the republican party who don't want them to be more flexible, who want to go down in flames. and that's the key issue. there are republicans who will be running for re-election for the senate next...
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boehner loved the sequester. he said it would be a great way to make sure spending is cut across the board, and that's what the republicans wanted. when the bill was signed, boehner told the country, he told everybody just how much he loved it. >> when you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white house, you know, i got 98% of what i wanted. i'm pretty happy. >> wait a minute now. i thought it was the president's plan. see, folks, the lying just keeps coming. boehner continued his lies in an op-ed today. he said the president got his higher taxes, $600 billion from higher earners and no spending cuts at the end of 2012. well, let's do a little math for the speaker of the house. $1.2 trillion is greater than $600 billion. john boehner should know this. he did the math before. in fact, he was one of 174 republicans in the house of representatives who voted for the budget control act of 2011. those republicans, what did they get? they got $1.2 billion in cuts to set up by the sequester by passing t
boehner loved the sequester. he said it would be a great way to make sure spending is cut across the board, and that's what the republicans wanted. when the bill was signed, boehner told the country, he told everybody just how much he loved it. >> when you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white house, you know, i got 98% of what i wanted. i'm pretty happy. >> wait a minute now. i thought it was the president's plan. see, folks, the lying just keeps coming....
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boehner said -- here he is, boehner, talking about these additional things. they're not really monetary, they have to do with values. well, if you want to call it abortion, fine. i think it's really about birth control, regulation at the environmental protection agency, things like that about climate change, the cultural questions we argue about all the time. here he is talking about why he has them on his bill. let's listen. >> our goal is real clear. we're going to fight for the largest spending cuts we can get, and the policy riders that were attached to them. >> well, that's not in the clip i wanted. another clip shows policy riders meaning i want to have no more regulations by the epa in terms of climate change and i don't want any federal money going to planned parenthood. is that where you are? where's the tea party on planned parenthood? >> we have not taken a position on those. we're looking for fiscal responsibility. the riders are something the republicans are pushing for their base. >> so you'd be willing tonight to say if you can get me my whole
boehner said -- here he is, boehner, talking about these additional things. they're not really monetary, they have to do with values. well, if you want to call it abortion, fine. i think it's really about birth control, regulation at the environmental protection agency, things like that about climate change, the cultural questions we argue about all the time. here he is talking about why he has them on his bill. let's listen. >> our goal is real clear. we're going to fight for the largest...
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amount is likely far more than republicans would be willing to accept and double the amount that speaker boehner had offered the president during their debt negotiations last year. today, the president is scheduled to meet with ceos from a dozen companies among them general electric, ford and ibm. they'll discuss ways to work together and try to find a balanced approach to reducing the deficit. during a closed door meeting yesterday with union leaders and liberal supporters, president obama reportedly vowed that he would "not budge" when it comes to letting the bush tax cuts expire for the country's highest earners. labor leader and president of the afl-cio was among those at the white house meeting and says he and the president are right now on the same page, richard trumka. >> we're working to make sure we're not paying a tab for a party we didn't go to. the president led with the notion of protecting the middle class and now you have republicans that have it in their power and could sign a bill tomorrow that protects the middle class so we'll see what they can. are we going to push them on th
amount is likely far more than republicans would be willing to accept and double the amount that speaker boehner had offered the president during their debt negotiations last year. today, the president is scheduled to meet with ceos from a dozen companies among them general electric, ford and ibm. they'll discuss ways to work together and try to find a balanced approach to reducing the deficit. during a closed door meeting yesterday with union leaders and liberal supporters, president obama...
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house speaker john boehner was easily re-elected to the post on wednesday with the exception of one vote, texas congressman nominated former speaker newt gingrich. it would have been perfectly legal but no one seconded the nomination. his fellow texan congressman ron paul gave part one of the farewell speech as he prepares to retire at year's end. >> sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world. >> national journal reports wisconsin congressman and former vp hopeful paul ryan will remain house budget committee chairman after being granted a gop waiver to avoid being term limited out of that spot. >>> senate majority leader harry reid lashed out at massachusetts senator scott brown mocking brown's calls for bipartisanship as a joke, describing brown as one of the most partisan senators ever to serve. >>> we now know which political office may be sought by another member of the bush family, george p. bush. his father, former florida governor jeb bush, confirms in a letter to potential donors that
house speaker john boehner was easily re-elected to the post on wednesday with the exception of one vote, texas congressman nominated former speaker newt gingrich. it would have been perfectly legal but no one seconded the nomination. his fellow texan congressman ron paul gave part one of the farewell speech as he prepares to retire at year's end. >> sadly, many religious groups, secular organizations and psychopathic authoritarians endorse government initiated force to change the world....
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of course boehner wouldn't specify. what we're hearing from paul ryan and others is the grand bargain and sbientitlements. at a basic level, i think democrats are objecting to the idea that either of these things should be a continuing point of lempl for republicans now or for any party in the future. again, i think that puts -- the onus is on boehner to see if he can get all the republicans in the who us to line up behind this. that's an open question because if he has to start dealing with democrats to get this through, their price is going to be a lot higher than this. >> steve kornacki, so great to have you here with me to roll with the punches. we have david corn from mother jones and msnbc political analyst, sabrina is a reporter for the huffington post and v viviana. i want to get you on record. david, let me start with you. your reaction to what you were able to hear from speaker boehner there and the rest of his republican colleagues talking about the fact that they are willing to offer the temporary extension
of course boehner wouldn't specify. what we're hearing from paul ryan and others is the grand bargain and sbientitlements. at a basic level, i think democrats are objecting to the idea that either of these things should be a continuing point of lempl for republicans now or for any party in the future. again, i think that puts -- the onus is on boehner to see if he can get all the republicans in the who us to line up behind this. that's an open question because if he has to start dealing with...